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How to Divorce Your Adult Children and Restore Your Sanity

By Kim Brassor May 07, 2023 Family

I am known for exposing the “elephant in the living room.” Those things everybody knows but nobody is talking about. Not every mother-daughter relationship reads like a Hallmark card, and our culture makes that a shameful secret to bear.

Dr. Christiane Northrup suggested that the bonding hormones that flood a mother’s blood stream at childbirth stay with women for about 28 years.

It is no accident, then, that the first round of truly adult separation (not teenage rebellion) begins to rear its head somewhere around 30 for women and the menopause years for their mothers. For the first time, the veil begins to lift and we see each other for the women we have become.

When It Comes to Your Adult Children, What is Normal?

Some estimate that 96% of American Families are dysfunctional in some way – making it the norm. But “normal” is not necessarily healthy, and it certainly falls short of the abundant life we’ve been promised.

Women are held responsible for the relational health of the world – at work, at home, family health and wellbeing, the sexuality, the promiscuity, the cause, the cure and the results. When a true perpetrator arises in a family, the mother protects ala Mama Bear. If she doesn’t die trying, she can later become a target.

Mom is apparently the one who knew (or should have known) what was happening at every moment of every day to their children – physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually. After all, moms have eyes in the backs of their heads and are equipped with the unusual ability to read minds, right?

See also: Letting Go And The Art Of Parenting Adult Children

What Is Healthy When It Comes to Adult Children?

M. Scott Peck wrote, “Mental health is an ongoing process of dedication to reality at all costs.” The pinch point for grandmothers is that any loss of relationship with our adult children means strained relations – if not severed ties – with the grandchildren who now light up our lives.

I am a mother of three and grandmother to 11. I stayed with their father for more than 20 years believing that somehow I could make him feel loved enough to change.

Over time, each of my children has drawn close to me for healing, and pulled away for the same reason. I am, after all, the one they hold responsible for the shifting emotional sand in their psyche.

Ten years ago, I remarried a man whose children were also grown. We imagined that would alleviate the adjustments of step-families. In some ways, not having children in the home made it easier to forge our identity as a married couple.

Although we shared values, we didn’t share history with each others’ children. We each brought our traditions and expectations to bear. When I recently chose to divorce this man who had played “grandpa” to my children’s children, old wounds surfaced.

Had I known that to leave him meant I would lose my only local family, I probably would have stayed for the sake of the grandchildren. It’s that old programming baby boomer women still struggle with.

If something isn’t working, you try harder. Marital problems? Pray more, love more, give more, be patient, and wait it out. Suck it up, stuff it down, be quiet and don’t make waves.

What Is Real?

I have identified four distinct stages in the journey to wholeness.


Our lives become (or continue to be) a carefully constructed illusion based on how it looks, what people will think, and what we imagine will get us the love and security we so desperately crave.

This is why grandmothers continue to “make peace at all costs” rather than saying what they see, need and want. Some have called it the disease to please.


Pretending that everything is okay when in our hearts we know that is not true can only go so far. We go along to get along. We smile in public and cry in private. We live a lie, and it eats at our souls every day.

Women think if we ignore it, maybe it will go away or time will heal all wounds. The thing is, time doesn’t heal buried pain. It has to be unearthed and acknowledged before it will pass away. Pain that gets buried alive poisons the rest of our lives.


Divorce is a harsh word when applied to our mother-child relationships, isn’t it? But it happens whether we acknowledge it or not. Divorce occurs when all communication has broken down and attempts at reconciliation fail.

It is the most painful dark night of the soul. With divorce comes all the drama of severed relationships, he-said she-said finger pointing, and drama triangles where people talk about each other, but never directly to one another so healing could occur. We might as well lawyer up and some do. It’s called Grandparent Rights.

See also: The Detachment Wall: How To Let Go Of Your Adult Children


Last is the place of acceptance. There is no anger, no angst, no more bargaining. It is where we accept what life is handing out right now and the fighting is done.

You have decided what you do and do not want, what you will and will not stand for, and are making decisions to move forward with or without the resolution you may have hoped for. You are free to stay or go because you have become dedicated to reality at all costs.


What’s Next for You and Your Adult Children?

Do I wish I had capacity back then to do some things differently? Definitely. Do I regret what I allowed my children to endure because of the choices I made? Mm-hmm.

Is there anything I can do now to go back and change it? Not a damn thing. Does it serve anyone for me to live in remorse and regret? Nope. Not now, not ever. Never.

Nobody had a perfect childhood – at least nobody in my generational gene pool. We all did the best we could with what we had to work with at the time. That is as true today as it was generations ago.

The biggest healer for women in daughter divorces is to break the shame by breaking the silence. Let’s talk about what’s real and how to help live dreams without drama in our later years.



This article has generated several important conversations. Many mothers/grandmothers are going through similar realities each with their unique set of situations. Talking and being vulnerable with one another is part of the healing process – as we can tell by reading your chats. Knowing that you are not alone helps in accepting the outcome of your distanced relationship with your adult children. 

Many have mentioned that therapy has helped them through this difficult time in their lives. Online therapy sessions are now readily available and affordable. Websites like Better Help, Talk Space, and Online Therapy have therapists and mental health professionals available to listen and guide you.

Let’s Have a Conversation:

Where do you find yourself in the process of letting your adult children go? Where are you on the journey to finding yourself in your sixties? Please share your thoughts below!

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This article resonates for me – from both the personal perspective and the social implications mentioned. Society holds devalued attitudes about women that are deeply embedded into our collective unconsciousness. I call it the double “F’d” Oreo – being sandwiched between working out crap with my mother while also working out crap with my kids and feeling bad about myself in both situations.

I love my family with every fiber of my being. My kids were the axis of my universe – for 25 years. I’m grateful they’re in my life – even if their behavior and choices make me feel like a pathetic looser or a horrible mother; at least some of the time. They behave as if they’d been raised by thugs or idiots or wolves. It’s as if they go out of their way to fail bc they don’t want to give us the satisfaction of enjoying their success. Meanwhile, my dad was never satisfied by anything I ever did and my mom was always jealous of any opportunity I found.

Honestly, I think my own kids would have fared better had someone else been their mom. I think parenting/motherhood is oversold, over-glamorized and simply not the best choice for everyone. I don’t even know if I made a choice about becoming a parent. I do know I had a belief I’d be less than a whole woman if I didn’t get married and have kids.

At 60, I just don’t know if any of it was ever the right choice for me or if I ended up doing more harm than good – despite every effort to parent them better than I had been parented. One child confronted me as the source of their dysfunction, and yet leans on me as though I’m their only friend. The other child pretends to tolerate me, ignores me – remains cut off and removed from me, most of the time.

I was never a perfect parent, suffered with depression & anxiety related to PTSD. And I also knew enough to be as transparent as possible with them, admitted I didn’t always do things right – gave them tools and resources to get help, if they needed it. I defined my disassociations as my problem – tried to lift them up and help them identify their own needs even when I couldn’t meet my own. Their failure to thrive in adulthood, their refusal to utilize their talents to help them fully function in the world feels like a slap in the face. I’m stuck feeling angry at myself, disappointed by God and untrusting of the universe I find myself living in.

I’m exhausted being less than what others expect. I wish I had the courage to run away – to disappear without another word, and start over – make a new life as though everything in the previous 59 years never happened.


I encourage you to not run away but plan to move somewhere new. You did all you could. Take care of yourself, feel your feelings, say the serenity prayer as much as possible and live your life now.


I did that, changed my name too in case they want to spy on me online. I dont want them to know where I live or if I’m alive or dead. I’m so done. It feels freeing.


I feel like running away most days. I am tired of feeling broken, hurt, used, disappointed. I wish I could change everything about the past 32 years. If I only knew what I know now.


I need help bad . Im 63 in two days im am being bullied by my 30 yr old son scared of him bad . Hiw xan i escape

Sandra Munsters

Call adult protective services.


You deserve a new start. Don’t allow your son to intimate you. Have camera’s installed. Change locks on your doors. He is manipulating you. Set strong boundaries. If you need to move to a different state do it! Block his number on your phone. Get support to help you stay strong. Once you divorce him out of your life you will feel the cloud lift.
You have done your job as a parent. Some men never grow up. If we enable our adult children and do for them what they can do for themselves- we dont give them the chance to mature.
Personally I’m tired of feeling guilty that I need to keep rescuing my 32 year old son. I’m DONE- Detach with love.
You deserve to smile. Keep your chin up. Be strong. You have support!




My best friend just had to evict their adult son who was abusing her and husband. The police had resources for elder abuse and social services sometimes does too. So sorry you are going through this.


Get him out by involuntary commitment for being a danger to others or like the other women said adult protective services. Or you get help to escape when he’s gone go with family friends shelter whatever you have to do. You deserve peace no one deserves to live afraid


I am just about 62 and have 2 adult children. I divoriced their Father whom had been in the military and tried to raise both of the kids on my own. I married at 18 and my daughter was the first born. From the get go, both of my kids felt entitled that they come first. They chased away every man that ever came into my life, and I look back now and know I allowed it! That was my own fault. My daughter ran away when she was 17 and had a son, which I never even knew about until she came back and had no place to go, so I allowed her to move back home and I helped her. I worked full time and paid for all her sons needs while she partied and became verbally abusive. My son thought I owed him everything! He became abusive as well. My daughter hooked up with one man after another until she landed one that stuck! My son got into drugs and at nearly 40, he is still doing drugs and asking me for money. I have helped him over and over. It has to stop! My daughter excludes me from everything and she and her now husband never even told me they got married. Her response was ” It was no big deal!” But she still expects me to send her cash for the holidays and yet, has not came and visited me in over 6 years. Her Father called me about 4 months ago and told me he has been trying to get my phone number from her for over 2 years. But she would not give it to him. We were both upset! He just recently died and she jumped in and took over. She left me out of the planning and she is acting like she was his wife. He left behind several thousand dollars in his bank account and she wants to inherit all he had. But because he did not have a will, it is in the state’s hands. Her brother knows, but she thinks he should get nothing. She just recently started having a relationship with her father, after she found out he got this money. She often would call me and brag about all she has, it just sickens me. She hates her brother and they have a horrible relationship because he is a drug addict! He won’t leave me alone. I told her that I am done. I do not want anything from either one of them and I want to live my life for me now. They both have used and abused me enough, and I need to be free! I have no idea how I am going to stop my son but I have to find a way. He shows up at my place in the middle of the night needing money when I have to get up for work. He tells me its my fault he is on drugs. Of course I know better.I want to divorice both of them and I feel like I should never had children. I am sick of the pain, the torment, the games.I was always there to help them when their dad could have cared less. And I just want to move on and make them live their own lives. And quit paying over and over because they only want what I can give them. I will leave everything I have to charity! I live by myself! My daughters son has no relationship with me, I took care of him for many years. My daughter is a pathological liar, she has been since she was a teenager. People have told me how she has told them that I did all these horrible things that I know I never did. So the truth does not see the light and I just do not care anymore. It is just sick!

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Jana P

Please don’t give up on yourself! They are exactly like me 2 that I have done Everything for but they could care less of the pain they have caused and continue to cause But we made them and I know that once we detach that is the Only way they will respect us and see our worth once we move on! Life happens and if they want a punching bag it won’t be me any longer! We have to make the Mom or parent sacrifice by cutting the cord and letting them learn to swim without us! Absolutely NO Contact for your sanity and if we truly love them ( as I know we all do) we have to let them see how it is without us! We are their crutch and will never learn to walk properly without us! Imagine daily in your mind that they are fine and move on! We made it this far in life and don’t deserve the emotional & physical abuse or embarrassment for all we have gone through for them! Change your number and block Any & All contact!!


You told it right. My child says I won’t avoid the conversation when in reality I am avoiding getting in the ring with her. She wont walk away when little things come up, and they become big things rather quickly. Since she felt the need to tell me all the things she thinks, I am now clear as to why moving forward with her is so difficult. She rewrote history and took the leading role in victim status. That required a good many outright lies coupled with a few extreme exaggerations and topped it all off with conjecture about my motives, which in her mind have me maliciously conspiring against her. After I made my way through her novel to me, I was so sick to my stomach that I literally couldn’t get a handle on myself for the rest of the day.
I don’t know what the future holds, but I do know it doesn’t hold me in a relationship with someone whose thoughts and opinions of me are like hers are.
Yes, it was important for us to get some boundaries in place so letting loose like she did wouldn’t forever compromise our family relationship. I repeatedly asked for that in our conversations. I knew that if I said what I’m thinking and feeling, it would only cause a further rift. So, I kept saying we needed a therapist to help us discuss our feelings and set some ground rules for engagement. She declined and instead wrote such a horrible letter to me that I can’t get past it, and with good sense, know it’s not in my best interest to try anymore. That was toxic in all caps. The way she laid it all out for me in such perfect clarity, I have no question any longer why my efforts to take the rage and meet in a healthy place today, or tomorrow, just can’t and doesn’t happen. She clearly sits around and stews about things making sure she my identity is clear….I’m satan.

No, her childhood wasn’t dreamy. Her mental illness (personality disorder) was quite a challenge. Moving into adulthood hasn’t been a picture perfect process, either. Personality disorders make things challenging, to say the least. To this point, I have asked for her to work with me to heal and make a better relationship going forward, but she likes to secretly hold on to her rewritten version, because being a victim appeals, especially when we are still living with the consequences of our previous choices and actions. We would like to blame somebody.


I couldn’t agree more, it’s a heavy load to bear, add the weight of all the guilt. And mom shoulders and hearts are supposed to be able to lift and hold this. I know for me, it’s physically killing me and I’m not even 50. Stress, anxiety, non-stop grief, hearts are not meant to endure this indescribable pain. Some of us don’t even know why? Im willing to listen but I’m not willing to take all the blame.
I was abused, gaslit like crazy, financially cut off, socially cut off, constantly insulted, threatened, emotionally, physically, mentally destroyed… and yet I still fought for them. “Take all the money, I just want the kids” but no, narcissists take everything.
The fight breaks you, but then the broken you is to blame…the saddest of catch-22’s.
Only wanting to be a better mom than I had. Yet, their truth is that I’m literally the worst. I only know that I never imagined a future where some of my kids hated me, I truly thought we would be so freaking close.
Broken hearts feel too heavy to carry some days.


This too is my story


I’m so sorry. This is similar to my story too, with my daughter.


This is my story too.


Stress, anxiety, non-stop grief, hearts are not meant to endure this indescribable pain. Some of us don’t even know why? 

You summed up exactly my thoughts. Our stories could be interchanged.
The part that drives me insane is why or where this came from. Literally, one week, I thought everything was ok and the next, my oldest, who projects so much, calls me a “twisted fucking psycho” and find out the whole time, she stole my inheritance behind my back and made false reports to police as if their lives were in danger. I’ve never even spanked them….

She’s even gone so far as to alienate my other two daughters against me, one by one. (I think they fear her and she was always a bully to them.)
When I ask why over and over? The only answer I get is “there’s so many reasons, I can’t begin….” or “you know what you did”…
She literally tries to come up with everything she can, to hurt and destroy me covertly, I never know where the next attack would come from. She’s told lies to alienate family, called police, talked my mom into signing over my inheritance, even told my husband if he left me, they would love him again….so sick.




When will we mom accept that it is perfectly okay to be done with a relationship with an abuser, whether it is an intimate partner or an adult child? The version of you an abusive adult child or intimate partner needs, wants and tries to get out of you is a scared, overwhelmed, unstable, anxious ridden human who will put up with being treated poorly. No one, not a husband, parent, adult child, sibling or friend or greater society for that matter, has the right to physically, emotionally and financially smash and mold you into a tool to meet needs. Letting go of abusive relationships and loving yourself with compassion is an extraordinary way to live. For me it meant zero contact with an abusive daughter and her children, my grandchildren. Once I allowed myself to experience a new way of life, a life that did not include being abused by an adult child, I experienced a better life, a richer life, a more peaceful life. I discovered there was truly a great life to be had beyond motherhood and all that entails. I only discovered this when I stopped comparing myself to what society said I should be and how I should feel. Sometimes enough is enough and that’s a good enough reason to change course. It’s been fifteen years now since I have been around her and I thank my lucky stars I did not stay engaged. because she has not stopped using a fictitious victim status to justify her abusive behavior towards so many who happen to get involved with her. She first used that to get out of trouble as a teen when she got caught at school smoking. Told the school an horrific lie about me and they felt sorry for her (found out two years later from a teacher and ended up easily disproving the lie). In the meantime she, trying to impress a boy who liked to par, continued to use the lie whenever she was called out for skipping school and it worked. The lie was that I was a drug addict doing lines of coke at home on a glass table and abusing her and had multiple drug dealer boyfriends living at the home. It was a shocker to hear as I have never done drugs and had no boyfriends living at the home ever and none that did drugs. I asked the school why they didn’t call child protective services on me because then at least I would of been aware she was lying and not where she was supposed to be and could of intervened myself to disrupt her being able to drink and smoke weed with her ‘bad boy’ boyfriend and his crowd while skipping school. Many adult’s children’s behavior is often out of our control. I know parents whose successful adult children are alcoholics and those parents spend much of their lives suffering with worry over them. I know of awesome parents whose adult children with whom they had loving relationships with killed themselves because of personal suffering they could not share with those same parents for reasons they took to the grave. None of us mothers should carry to our own grave the stigma, humiliation, shame, anger, sadness and grief over an adult child’s negligent behavior, addictions or other issues they have which brings us estrangement because other women need to compare themselves to us in order to feel better about themselves- that simply has to stop and it ends when every woman makes a pledge to not go there and not be the gossip that destroys others to uplift herself. I loved my daughter with my very life and probably always will but I will not be in relationship with her and I am absolutely fine with that and do not apologize for a decision that serves my sanity and helps me be in appreciative and healthy relationships with others.

I'm just done

Mine lied and still lie about me. One even said that I sexual abused him to destroy a relationship to keep me isolated and trapped. I feel your pain.


oh yes. my youngest got in trouble, and was to appear in court. All though his Dad never speaks to them, he called his dad, said I was taking pills drinking, crazy, tried to kill him, OD, the works. I have never had a speeding ticket, never in rehab, never in trouble, Hearing him say those things broke me. 3 months later the attorney called to say he wanted to come home.
I put MAJOR boundaries. ankle bracelet, drug testing, major therapy the works.
helped for a bit, but then covid hit and disaster. I sent him to a military school. He did well. but at 16 thrust into an adult world. Back to drinking, drugs, stealing, then he went to fl to live with his 27 year old brother, his brothers girl friend, her mother, stripper sister, and disaster!!!!
6 mths, called to join the marines. Did well until I bought him a car. Where are my brains?????


I finally let go of my abuser, my daughter, but this group is the only place for help. I went to NARANON and all it was make it worse. It is so hard to find support for parents who are abused by their adult children. I am glad for this group. I like post, thanks!


I love what you said, ” because other women need to compare themselves to us in order to feel better about themselves”. I have nothing to do with my one and only daughter, I finally broke the tie to free myself from her abuse, I belief she might have killed me in one of her drugged rages. It took years of letting go, moving and working thru it until I finally said goodbye. I have had some women who tried to compare me in order to feel good about themselves and I found they had problems too, so I do not say much no one it is not their business. I am so grateful for this site and your post really helps. I can relate so much, thank you for sharing.


Wow, ty for sharing. Are we twins? I was feeling like a piece of garbage thinking it was just me. I know your story, I’m loving it too. My daughter is 28 and has verbally and physically attacked me all of her life. It’s been awful. She has called me names, puts me down and plays the victim. I’ve been supporting her and my grandson and she feels entitled. I just can’t do it anymore. It’s abusive, plain and simple. She doesn’t want to work with me to repair the relationship, she wants to vent and blame.


You have so many great points!


I’m both saddened and relieved to read your post. Sad because no one should have to endure this pain and relieved that maybe it really isn’t me if others are having the same experience. I could have written that post…it’s so much my experience. I’m learning to see my adult daughters behavior as a consequence of mental illness and not be so vulnerable to the never ending attacks. I’m 71 now and don’t want to spend my last years on earth suffering the pain of regret that others insist I suffer


Your story really resonates with me. I have come to the point where I am nervous just hearing my sons voice as I can be assured that at some point it is going to hurt. I have grandkids who I adore and feel incredibly hurt that they will miss out on many things due to the relationship I have with their father. I have recently decided to drop out of the battle. I just don’t have enough of me to keep going back “in the ring ” with him. My son is difficult for other people as well and lacks self awareness of the impact of his own actions. He is a constant victim of circumstances. He is his own worst enemy in many ways and it kills me to know that the train he is driving is heading to a bad place. I am pretty much done after many years of abject pain and mental mind space going to only one of my kids. It is time to invest in people who give back and treat me as though I deserve to be treated the way I treat others. DIfficult road to be on but we are not alone in our experiences.


Oh my. I’m so sorry that you are going through this. I’m going through the same with my adult son. I just can’t take the pain anymore after years of trying and supporting i’m giving up the fight. I’m so sorry that I will miss out on the love of my grandson, but I can’t keep going back just to be kicked like a dog!


That’s my life your talking about I now just need to know how do I go about divorcing them now please advice


I just had to let go. Literally! My son is so screwed up on drugs and I will not allow him to ruin my life in the process of ruining his own. My daughter I talk to now and then, but I keep my distance!


Thank you for sharing, I had moved away and tired to let go, I talked to some women at a support that made feel guilty, so I got close to my addicted, lying, manipulative, criminal, drug addict, thief daughter my only child, and it started dragging me down worse than ever before, I am now re divorcing her, I am done! I am almost 69 and I am done! I love this group. Thank you, R, Tired


Thanks so much! It makes me feel better knowing I am not aone!

Cate Carney

Julie, it’s mandatory you find your backbone- and prioritize you. Backbone is an act of self love. My 30 yr old son was bullying me too – I made myself unavailable for it. The moment I sense he is going there I depart from the room and lock my door if I need to or I leave the house and do something kind a bd supportive of myself. My youngest told my 30 yr old that I was locking my bedroom door at night because I was done with his intimidation tactics and he actually felt remorse. Tell your higher power that you need to know what the best way to move forward all the while loving and honoring yourself as the highest priority. Let go let God and you will see the support manifest

I'm just done

Me too. I’m almost 50 and I’m going through this too. If you are in danger call the cops! Don’t play around with this! If someone tries to tell you that you shouldn’t do it tell them that they can put up with him and take him in.


I have thought that if I was in the same state as my son, I would need to be prepared to protect myself.


I hope you can get away from your abusive son and start again.

i am looking at moving away to start again without my daughter in my life and that also means no contact with my grandchildren. I’m done too its not easy and i am writing this on a very desperate, depairing day. I feel afraid to do it. I have 2 new friends in my life and a therapist i see once every 2 weeks and thats it.

love and hope.

Sharon C

I moved to Florida from NY back in 2021. The defining moment was when I thought I had a heart attack. I knew I had to make a change fast. My oldest daughter was abusive to me since the age of 12. Calling me horrible names, doing massive drugs with her bf under my roof, abusing me and my youngest daughter. Then she had three kids-two with that drug addict bf and one with another drug addict. She stole money, clothes, used me to pay her rent and buy her a car and whatever else. I finally left. I was drained. Done. When I went back to visit her house that I paid for was disgusting, full of garbage, 30 cats with cat pee and feces everywhere, dirty moldy dishes. The kids lived in this. CPS did nothing. I couldn’t get the kids. They made that clear. So I left for good after a visit, cleaned her house and she kicked me out. I’ve had no contact with her for 8 months. The grandkids constantly were fighting. I’m living a peaceful life with my hubby (one she tried to drive away but he saw through her). I miss my grandkids but not all the fighting. My advise…move away and cut off all contact. I don’t even have a phone, this is my hubbys.


Move away if you can and don’t tell him where you are going do everything covertly. This makes me sad for you.

N o e l

I feel the same way that I want to run away as well I have a older daughter 50 and I see what you going to or what you saying it’s true you want to divorce your daughter and be left alone because they become hurts in your life and they disrespect you and curse you off for no reason long because they want to have their way but it ends here this is a new year and I’m tired really tired


Omg so glad I found this channel i need desperately to divorce my daughter im 60 shes 33 we are well past due im so tired of the disrespect she just moved back in my grandson is 6 she has anger issues and no job
Im so tired and want to move on with my life


My Daughter is 38 and has a two year old. She is Divorcing her wonderful husband so because of the economy has to live with me. We fight and she treats me like dirt most of the time. I haven’t stopped crying in 6 months.


You’re not alone. You do not deserve to be treated this way. Decide what you want to do, for example 1) talk with her, tell her what you expect from her and what you will not accept from her, write it down like a contract, give her a copy. And if she does accept your boundaries life may be better, but if she doesn’t , which is her choice, then she has to find some where else to live.
Not easy at all, but you will feel better when the dust settles.
Just because the economy is hard does not mean you have to go through this.


I’m so sorry Deborah. But I have to ask…why do you put up with it?


I think most of us put up with this because of guilt and because we are the Mom and everything that word means. That’s why I did and do do that…..

Kathleen Crowe

Exactly! I can’t get by the need to fix everything.


I think we put up with it as we keep attempting to “fix” those we love in hopes that they will live better lives. The problem is they are not asking to be fixed, nor see any issues. It is a losing battle in which all parties fail at. You have to extricate yourself from the situation and create boundaries. Accepting that you will not have the relationship with you adult child that you once believed possible is difficult but keeping it real will ultimatley redeem your sense of self restore your power and self respect . Perhaps then and only then it will fall together.


I agree with you, and I think we stay too long because of lack of support. My daughter is addict so I went to NARANON. Worst thing to do, they are not supportive even when you are being abused. I know I stayed in the relation with the abuser, because I tried to help because she was daughter and then Naranon would push the guilt buttons, it was hard, but finally. It’s done and I can raise my self-esteem and be safe too.


sound like me :(


Your not alone, I’m going through this with my middle daughter and her girlfriend, 22 year old son and younger kids 10,13 the kids mom has taught them to lie now my daughter has said she will love me from a distance 💔


Hi. I’ve experienced alot as well. God will free you ~ And relocate you if that’s what you want… As my mother said once a person is 30 – They don’t change… I’m finding that to be often true.


I’m so sorry :( it’s hard enough when it’s our child but extra hard when grandkids are involved. We have no say and they don’t want it anyway


I hear ya. You are strong. You will find a way to re make your path, your life.


I, too, am glad I found this channel. I have lived with the anger I hold in my heart for my daughter. I am tired, weary and far too angry to keep going. While there are two grandchildren – about to be three, nothing seems to change with her. She has a baby for every man she dates, but love is not something she knows anything about.


I get it. My daughter was given everything she wanted and needed, yet as an adult, she feels the need to interrogate me for my decisions I made before she was born. Ugh!


I am so glad that my oldest son is in fl, and other one in marines.
I would NEVER let them move in with me. I moved to a new city, and small house.
I am so lonely, so I am getting a dog.


I wish we could all runaway together. Vount me in!


Count me in too.


I am with you. I am 60, three sons. Two of them want to divorce me and basically have done it. They were once loving. I think social media got to them. I am going through the stages of grief. It has been three years of hell. There new wives are not much help. They stand by their man. I have entered the acceptance stage of grief. It has been a lot of crying. I need to get my life back. It is sad that the two of them will not be in it. I love my boys. I can’t help them anymore.

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My husband and myself have 2 that walked away. We have 4 adopted children. The oldest and only son sent me a text out of the clear blue 4 years ago telling me he never wanted to see me again and he hoped I would have the horrible death I deserved. We supported him through alcoholism, 3 drug rehabs and jail. Gave him a car and a house and bought him clothes, etc when he got out. He was fine with us for a year or 2 then when he moved in with a new girlfriend he became cold, often calling and texting me with verbal filthy abuse. The second child left on her 18th birthday …she came to our home at 8 and had very serious bonding issues. They both were the 2 we worked with the hardest. I can’t help but wonder if we cheated the 2 youngest trying to save the oldest 2. As a mom I cry almost every single day. The pain will never go away…it is hell on earth. I think I should never have been a mom…who has TWO kids walk away?

Jeannie MacMillan-Banham

My youngest killed herself, age 15. My eldest (now 35) has, after years of verbal abuse and blame cut me off entirely. It’s been nearly two years. I don’t even know where she lives. I am heartbroken and by turns very angry and sad. I feel closer now to my actually dead child than the one who still lives (I assume). You have my greatest sympathy. This is all wrong and the world has gone mad.


The pain does go away. You have to tell yourself that you are *depressed, embarrassed, anxious, angry, etc* and that it is perfectly normal for you to feel this way. This is part of being human. If you didn’t feel that way, something would be wrong. Then take deep breaths and let it go. Do that every time you feel hurt. Then find something that makes you feel better about yourself- hobby, walks, writing, dancing- whatever it is and do it. Learn to accept your emotions and learn to cope with them in healthy ways. Eventually you will see your worth and not tolerate the way youre being treated.


Can I come along too?


I understand I have a daughter that is 50 and I have finally closed the door on my relationship with her, I am so tired of being called names, gaslighting, blamed for things I did not do, she even yelled at me when I had cancer and then one time even kind of laughed under her breathe when I told her the pain I was in. I have been just angry since I told her to go to hell and blocked her on my phone, but now I am starting to feel the hurt and a deep emptiness like never before, but also a freedom and strength of coming up from the abuse which also had been threats of physical abuse as I begged her not to hurt me. I am so very done. she is a homeless drug addict that also lost her children when they were 3 they are twins and she has not visited them or seen them because she will not do what the court has said she needs to do, but she lies about that too and blames the father and tries to blame me when we are the ones who have been there and raised them. Their father has not always been there for them, I have and listened and saw the hurt in their eyes as one of them so painfully asked me where “Where’s our mom” and I said I don’t know honey. My poor granddaughters, thank goodness their father was close to a church that helped raise them also and me of course and they are nice girls and now 17. As far as my adult daughter, I am finally free of her abuse. I done.


You are not alone and I feel your pain.


After nearly 4 years of estrangement my 31 Yr old daughter and husband have moved back from London. They only live 3 miles from me and have a 2 month old baby. I meet them at a local park a few weeks ago….1st meeting. I hour and I really don’t feel the same about her. After two short text messages without reply I’ve decided I’m done. These people need to realise everything is generational!! I reguard her as clueless. I’m done.

Jana P

The generation they live in labels us “ Toxic “ for giving them everything they wanted & needed and caring way too much about what we created! They can keep their Internet labels and call on the internet & fake friends for money and true love! I’m Done with being abused, let the internet try to heal their wounds when we die!




Generational. That is what comes between me and my sons. They are in their 30’s. I am dumb because I am 60. They know everything. I can help them anymore.

Susan wilburn

A two month old baby is a Lota work . Offer to cook a meal or two for them. Offer to baby sit 3 or 4 hours on their days off. Maybe go over and help clean the house to give them a fresh reset. Little things help. Buy a pizza have them over.
Keep the offer out there to help. Good Luck


Been there done that. Did everything you mentioned still have no room for me in their lives. I have no family of my own. My daughter and gkids is all I have.


Please volunteer perhaps with seniors just maybe for bingo or other activities it will help a lot!


I feel the same way

Gabe Drewery

I thought I was making the right choices but then my children say I didnt. I should have done this or that. Instead of realizing I did the best I could. My husband is very ill. I get no relief from them. I am depressed and my daughter says she doesn’t like the drama etc etc. Therd is so much more. Anyway…..


Such is this generation that blames, guilts, shames us parents when in all reality they are too mentally weak to take ownership for their own self-righteous, arrogant, ignorant ways and too weak to fight the spiritual warfare. Too cocky to be humble and grateful for their upbringing and the fact we took great care of them. They are lost without our Lord and savior The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.


you said it!!!!!!! I worry about the next generation.

I'm just done

You’re not the only one. If I could talk to my past self I would tell her to end both pregnancies and run! None of it was even worth it. Not even a little bit. I don’t think I could be sad if either of them died. I never even wanted to be a mother. I was bullied and harassed into it. I’m trying to come up with an escape plan right now.

Tanya Cronin

fuck how did you just say everything, I’m totally feeling right now


Tami, I relate to your 4 adjectives: broken. hurt. used. disappointed. My only child, daughter, was independent from 9 mos old, I was close to my mom so not what I expected, don’t know how she is so cold. I’m sorry for your situation, and hope perhaps it’s better now for you. I’m working on “not caring”, perhaps it will hurt less. But ohhhh the disappointment. And Ohhh, ouch, the “used”. I get it. Wishing you well and feeling like I am in same place in this moment of time.


Reading the comments makes me feel less like crap for my feelings.


I have been thinking of doing this too.


I think it’s sad how we try as women and the majority of the advise I read about adult children being ungrateful or disrespectful to their mom is how the mom needs to bend over backwards and “listen” to their children or assess their issues. How about some children just grow up to be a&@ holes and we should disassociate ourselves until the child can get a grip because their an adult? My daughter is 30 and we used to have a good relationship and now that she has a new husband and has scene how his mother waits on him hand and foot…she doesn’t ask for my opinion or engage in meaningful conversations with me and basically has cold shoulder me but yet as a mom I’m suppose to take it on the cheek and ask “what else can I do for you 30 year old daughter 🫣”


I think your daughter already knows how you feel about her husband and waiting on him hand and foot that’s why she gives you the cold shoulder it because she is embarrassed. Only know that through my experience in marrying someone my mother disapproved of. She was right, but I had to learn the hard way. Please don’t let the cold shoulder get to you. My mother salvaged our relationship by not rescuing me but being available when I needed her and she knew I would need her eventually. Let me add even though our relationship wasn’t warm because of the tension it was respectful. I would never disrespect her even when we argued there wasn’t any verbal abuse either way.
After I had enough and divorced the man she didn’t like for me, our relationship blossomed and so did we!


Like my dear ole Mom used to say ” People don’t use you, you let them”. People ( children included) are radiators or drains.

Jana P

Same! Mine can live her fake life with the in laws who couldn’t Ever imagine what I put up with raising her so good luck with her new family but all Poop floats to the surface! It may not happen now but Oooo it’s coming and Real mommy won’t be around for the blame and abuse! I’ve changed my number and gotten off of all social media. If they ever mature we need to make them look for us and put as much effort into us as we did for them!


It’s not that you need to bend over backwards to please them. It’s that they need to be able to communicate without you getting defensive. When they bring up an honest time you’ve done them wrong up you need to not be defensive and own up to your mistake. If you don’t feel you’ve made a mistake you still have to listen to what they have to say, it could be just a different point of view on an event.
Refusing to hear or refusing to admit detailed mistakes you’ve made makes the child feel like you don’t truly care about them, that you’re feeling are more important then theirs.

It’s extremely wrong to think that a child should be unwaveringly grateful to you. They did not choose you as a parent. You chose to have the child and what you do for your child is not a “sacrifice”, it’s a choice.
Are you constantly disrespecting your child by reminding them that you took care of them? You are wrong for doing that. Don’t throw temper tantrum when you’re not getting your way, lead by example


This is part of the problem! Stop blaming parents. Obviously you aren’t experiencing this unspeakable pain.

Love GOD

I believe that the adult children being talked about here are adult children that are toxic and disrespectful. There are a lot of such adult children in this world today.

What it all amounts to today is GOD ALMIGHTY’S COMMANDMENT: Honor Thy Father And Thy Mother: That Thy Days May Be Long Upon The Land Which The Lord Thy God Giveth Thee. (Exodus 20:12) KJV

This commandment is not conditional or negotiable. Of course we cannot choose or change who our parents are or the circumstances we are born into, however, God expects us to Honor our parents regardless. If, as a child, we experience any pain or suffering from our parents, our duty is to go to God with our sufferings and to seek help (maybe therapy, etc.) in overcoming them. A lot of these adult children we are talking about here are using their pain and suffering as an excuse to dis-honor their parent(s) and many of them feel as if they do not have to honor their parent(s) because of the mistakes their parent(s) have made and the adult children do not think that their parent(s) “deserve” their honor and respect. This is not so.

(Deuteronomy 21: 18-21) KJV, tells us the truth about how GOD ALMIGHTY truly feels about stubborn and rebellious children.

I have also cut ties with my adult son because of a lot of the same reasons that people are talking about in these comments. All I can say is that in life, sometimes you have to let people go. Even your own children. It can be difficult at first, but in the end, you must take your own well- being serious and make it a priority. Pray for your son/daughter. Read your Bible for comfort and strength, and pray for forgiveness of any mistakes you made with your children. Forgive yourself and move on. The only forgiveness you need is from GOD ALMIGHTY. If your child does not forgive you, he/she will have to answer to GOD for that.



How old are your kids Kathleen? My daughter is very passive aggressive and takes jabs when we do talk (subtle) and has made my mom her rock and basically makes me out to be a jerk when I busted my butt raising her and comforting her. So you cut yourself off from your adult children and feel free? I can understand but yet as moms I feel we have to put up with feeing hurt or less then. I like your idea better


I love this idea


I think you are on it! When your done,your done! Bravo 👏👏👏👏

Jana P



I want to be just like you!


That is as exact as any comparison I’ve found to my own experience. I have felt so alone. It is crazy painful. Thank you for opening up to us. Love to you!


Hi Pam. I feel very alone as well. Things started downhill after hubby died 8 yrs ago. I was still working PTime but with COVID 2020 shut downs, I chose to retire. 38 yrs in my profession. Don’t mind retirement too much at 77. But now, with a ungood hip/ knee, son & wife tell me ‘someday you will need a Medicaid nursing home so you should give US your assets so govt doesn’t take your house/ property’ Huh!! NO WAY!!
Needless to say there are problems now. We live close by each other. I LOVE my house & wooded property & nature. Not moving. Hubby and I put in OUR $$$ and efforts building our house!
I would like some help sometimes but DIL says NO ‘unless we own it’. I don’t trust them anymore. Yup. I feel alone but HAVE attorney support and some friends and am trying to stay active and purposeful. I work out daily but the joints limit me more than a year ago. No more surgery. Had 5 already.

Monica Sommers

He is partially correct in placing your assets in your childrens names. Call an Elder Law attorney. He will explain how this is done and the reason it will brr we benefit you .

Susan wilburn

Make sure you get a reputable attorney. Some attorneys have their name on the paper work to come back to them after you pass so they can get more money. Read up on what you want to do . If you put your affairs in your children’s names one can take a loan out on your home with out the rest knowing. Seriously, be careful.


Double f-d Oreo – I love that!
—Kim (author of this little piece)


Although my son is not 18 yet, he is only 16. But this year, he started treating me very mean. He is junior year in high school taking few college courses that is the trouble begin.. He was having hard time with the course. He is having hard time passing the college math class, I was just trying to help him maybe just showing him how to do a certain problem, he will call me micromanage him. annoying mom, constantly playing with my emotion. i just trying to help but i feel the math maybe too hard for him so he does not want to the homework. i was just trying to show him some problems so he will have the motivation to do the homework. i just so sad.


It’s OK to be sad when they’re not close or loving. It’s hard to stop helping our kids but it is a good thought that he is trying to be independent. If he fails then you have to let him deal with the consequences or he will not learn. Let him know that you can help him if he wants you to and walk away. Then don’t help unless he asks. *hugs*


Hi. I couldn’t have said it better myself. My son is 40 who I only see on holidays. We were extremely close until he was 10 when I met an abusive controlling psycho of a man. Of course all this didn’t come out in the beginning. I loved him to death & got trapped in the “he’ll change. I got pregnant that was totally unexpected but it being his 70 year old parents 1st grandchild, his 1st child at age 40, I really thought it would be different. I suffered from depression, anxiety & PTSD. I was a mess & terrified everyday. When my baby girl was 2, I knew I had to go, get away. Making a book of a story shorter, my husband didn’t see us much for about 2 years. Backing up, he was physically & verbally abusive to my son & he lived in fear. I couldn’t interfere or it would’ve been harder on him. I’d always worked but decided when my daughter was born I’d stay home with her. That being said gave my now husband full control. He was extremely verbally abusive to me & I too lived in fear. My daughter went to her grandparents after school where my now ex husband resided & the abuse continued but I didn’t feel I had much of a choice. I’d keep them away but ended up returning. Anyway, my daughter now 30 is staying with me & my boyfriend as she’s saving money for a house & has pretty much reminded me everyday what a pathetic human being and I ruined there lives among thousands of other horrible things. I love my kids more than life itself & honestly did the best I could at the time. My daughter is just as abusive as her father. I really want to end my relationship with my kids especially my daughter but how does a mother do that. But if I don’t, she’ll eventually kill me (mentally). I still suffer from depression, I’m in pain 24/7, I’m not a happy person at all. I watch hallmark all the time wishing I had that kind of relationship with my kids, but that will never happen. My daughter is causing issues btwn my boyfriend of 4 years cuz she’s just a horrible person to be around. He’s been so good to her but she talks mean about him all the time. Stupid stuff. She came home from work one day, stayed in the car for over an hour. He went outside to check on her & she texted me that she was mad because she was fine & he’s just being nosy. It caused an argument for days & still gets brought up. This is his house, he’s letting her live here for free, gave her money to put a down payment on a car, security deposit for an apt, whatever she needs he’s there & she has the nerve to complain to me about him. I’m 61 and miserable, stressed out & sometimes just want to crawl in a hole & die. Sorry this was so long


Hey at least u get married 40 with 3 kids..they spend with her parents and his father..I’m invited to bday parties for kids

That’s it. I’m about done..starting to detach


My married son will be 41 soon and I used to be so close to him that I could barely see fault in him. Now from well-needed therapy after he moved away and set boundaries with me, I realize he was not my answer. He is human like the rest of us and comes with many faults. I just realized now in my life that I don’t have to be a part of those behaviors anymore. I have worked hard to detach from all my kids and honestly, I feel next to nothing. I never thought that could be possible but it is. It’s a conflicted feeling of numbness and not caring to think these are my flesh and blood and I am supposed to be connected. The apathy is winning. They bring me little joy.


You made some pretty awful life choices – choosing an abusive partner; choosing to have a baby with the abusive partner; choosing to stay home so the abusive partner had full control of your finances; letting your abusive partner abuse your son and not doing anything about it. You seriously don’t see your own role in creating the situation with your children? You don’t want to take ANY responsibility here, at all? If I were your kids, I wouldn’t talk to you at all, for any reason. You should “divorce” them; they are better off without you. And likely always would have been better off without you.


Michelle, What abusive reply.


I could have written your post, word for word. I’m a 52 yr old mother of 3 adult children – who have managed to keep me with my jaw on the floor, dumbfounded, devastated and broken for the last 25 years. I am so very done and inches away from getting in my car and never looking back. I’ve no clue who these manipulative, ungrateful, nasty, mean young adults are anymore and don’t want anything to do with them. I more than understand what you are going through and am very sorry you’re feeling the same way as I am. Such an icky feeling…. I wish you the very best. I hope things can turn around for you!!! As for me, I’m ready to runaway from colorado!!! Leave em all here to do their thing and go find me….wherever I may be


Amen! I am so with you and just heartbroken. They were my best friends for so long and now, bc I have an opinion that ‘they think is mean’, they have cut off all ties and are just being abusive in every way possible, other than physically. And now I’m being told by my youngest of the adult abusers that ‘I lacked unconditional love, I am/was judgmental and was in general a bad mom that now causes them anxiety and stress. They are now even intentionally being hurtful by not saying happy birthday, happy anniversary etc. This causes my first: massive hurt then massive anger and just want to return the same treatment. It’s enlightening to read these posts and know that I am not alone.

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Kim Halsey Brassor

I read a statistic that 40% of women over 60 are experiencing this alienation. It took ok me a solid 5 years to move through the denial, anger, bargaining and depression before I could fully accept the loss and move on to build a joyful life for myself again. This pain runs deep. Breathe and heal. And give yourselves a break – they certainly won’t!


40% seems low… You offer sound and comforting advice. :)


Thanks for sharing Beth. I could have written your post. Currently in tears because I am trying to push my 38 year old verbally abusive son out of the nest (yet again) so he has decided that when he goes, this time I will never see him again.

Colleen Cat

Sounds like my daughter who I have done nothing but babysitting her kids for free at the drop of a hat, cosigning for a car, loaning money…now she’s totally gone after being so obnoxious at 1 am. No wonder i am so pi%%$$d. The level of ungratefulness is unreal.Luckily I watched the grandkids all thru their childhood. They are teens now and daughter has dumped me. The grandkids still love me! I am working on keeping those relationships going.


I’m with you going through the wounds and same international lack of abuse, yesterday was my 67th birthday and my daughter made the worst birthday she caters to her girlfriends mom.


You are not alone.


It sounds you are well ahead of the game. If and when you ever let your children I hope it will be on your terms. It sounds harsh but ” Out of sight ,out of mind” it’s taken me 4 years but I’m done and it feels great!


Maybe you don’t want them to find you. Or maybe you just want them to love you and make you feel wanted. I can relate to your feelings as if they were my own. I’ve sadly come to realize that our adult children, especially sons, don’t really want or need us in their lives. They’ve moved on to their own tribe as they should. Mothers especially get cast aside for fear of conflict with their wives. No one really ever asks how this makes us feel in life, but we end up feeling used up, discarded, unimportant and empty. No one tells you this is what happens. So, it takes us some time to figure out that we need to walk away and find our own life now. Our old job has ended – time for a new one. One that serves you, and you only. Somewhere there is a place for us. :)


I can’t tell you how much your life resonates with mine. Its so hard at the moment. My mind plays over everything I have done for my 2 daughters and trying to understand why they seem to disregard me so. I am 60 but feel as if I am done; tired and want to run away whilst on the surface to others look as if I should be happy. What next? Jane

Kim Halsey

What next? I play a “what if” game in my mind. What if I didn’t have this person or problem in my life? What would I be doing differently? Where would I spend my energy? My time? My money? Where would I invest my love? Then do the things that bring you joy. One day at a time, the fear, shock and pain will dissipate and a beautiful, drama free life can be born. Try it!

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I’m planning my departure. I’m leaving this unbearable abuse. If I don’t, the stress is going to kill me.


Feel the same good luck stay strong so many mom’s feeling hopeless and running is the only option. Sad.

Linda lopez-davis

OK I just read another woman’s post that she wants to run away to. And I replied to her message but now I’m thinking maybe we need to make a club and Collett the runaways or something I don’t know but I definitely think that there’s a need of a support group for us women, what do you think as I know I have beat myself over the head or way too long right away too many tears getting myself sick and sicker and I thought to myself. Wow this is just horrible to feel this way not knowing that other women were also dealing with this tragedy . But obviously there are others and I’m glad I found this group of women and I sharing and although I don’t feel as bad I still hurt, so what do we do now? WHAT DO WE DO NOW WITH OUR LIVES?!?!


I’m in. I agree with everything you said. We have a need to feel important and identify as proud women – not just mothers, wives, and grandmothers.


I agree!!! I’m thrilled to have found this group!!!




we didnt ask to be born, tormented for life and thrown away like garbage and like we never existed – if i could have begged my mom to ABORT me I would have wanted that


OMG…this is my story as well. Eventhough I feel bad for you but simultaneously I am cheering you on for quantifying your observations and feelings so clearly. This gives me hope. Last week 2 days before my child who is my precious one told me I am an less than a mother to them. Broke my heart. I finally decided to divorce myself from from her. Other daughter retains distance and doesn’t want me to have any relationship with her children. I am a emotionally battered woman who endured abuse from my husband. Im 68 today. Been married for 46 years. Hung on to the marriage because I didn’t want my daughters to grow up on a broken home. God will see me through I think. Not sure

Radika jordan

I feel for you. I am also going through the same. I pray you find peace and I cheer you on.


Your story moved me to tears. I am in the same boat. Three adult sons who exclude us. I’m moving on. I can’t do any more. This is my life and I can live it well with a loving husband and without them. They broke my heart when they were teenagers and I have never trusted them again. Good luck to you. Moving might be just the ticket. I feel happier and more confident after making the decision to move on without them in my life. This is their problem and no longer mine.

Claire Robin

For us, my husband and I, it’s so similar to grieving the death of our son. He died of a Fentanyl overdose in 2018. We went through grief and came out three years later sort of intact. Now our daughter, she’s 33, well, I think she hates us. We see her 3-4 times a year, usually to give her birthday/Christmas gifts. Or when she needs her winter tires put on her car. She stores stuff at our place. And she gaslights us and is verbally abusive. So…we’ve gone through the grieving process with her too. I simply can’t see her anymore, as it’s just too disruptive. So, if my husband dies before I do, I’m simply going to cancel his phone, which is her only contact with us, and that will be that. I never would have thought your child could end up becoming a complete stranger. But this is what she is now: someone I used to know (like the song).


I’m so sorry for your loss! I lost my firstborn child, my son in 4/2020 to diabetes complications. I was estranged from him and last saw him Mother’s Day a year prior. My other son lives the street life and been in and out of incarceration since age 14 in juvenile detention. He has 8 kids with 4 women. I’ve been there for him throughout everything. His dad, my ex husband reluctantly attended endless court dates. We argued a lot as he wanted to give up on our son who was still a minor at the time. I always had a loving relationship with my son despite the pain of his lifestyle until he got with this women he’s with now. Then my daughter who never gave me trouble started acting resentful at age 26. She is a different person. She is verbally disrespectful, narcissistic and selfish. My daughter moved to London and said she will never come back for visits. I get insincere calls for holidays and my birthday. No cards, flowers or gifts. Well every few years or so my son brings me something he bought on the streets. But, it’s the thought right? Certainly! But not if it’s clearly an afterthought. 😢 I’m still grieving my late son and not see his 3 kids. That burden of grief is heavy enough without the load of my other kids shenanigans! I’m happier when I don’t hear from my kids as soon as I see them calling I hold my breath because it’s usually my son needs money for his 8 kids and my daughter needs advice about a crisis. They barely even say how are you mom.


Wow! I found my group. I’m so sorry this sucks so bad. My life has no meaning anymore. I quit. I am suicidal and it’s gotten so out of control. After reading comment after comment, I have come to the conclusion this is normal for moms my age. I was broken by my abusive mother who used my children to continue to abuse me and she gave their father permission and a bad example to follow. She sided with their lying, sick, pedo, father (who paid off my oldest daughter) whose father died of cancer when she was 3. Now my daughter’s have used me for years using emotional abuse to extract guilt money from me and then tell me I’m using $$ to buy my grandchildren’s love when I send birthday and Christmas gifts. My amazing son now treats me like crap just to make my DIL secure and happy. Heaven forbid I should ever expect my children to be as protective and loyal to me as I was to them their entire childhood. My oldest, the one that was abused by my younger children’s father, will throw me under the bus if she gets something out of it. And a month later call and gaslight me on how it was all her younger sister’s fault because she is so toxic. I FEEL LIKE A FAILURE! Now all three have hanged up against me and I’m the toxic one for not meeting their emotions and financial expectations. I have been accused of gaslighting and making excuses. I am so tired of the projections from abusers, and this is way worse than loosing a spouse. I am physically Ill. I am recovering from a TBI and I feel so confused at how my life got so out of control. I accept that I’m not perfect. I am the weakest, imperfect, person I know. I just don’t have any more fight left. I can’t fight battles I am fighting alone. I died on the hill I chose. I am looking forward to rebirth, and rebuilding my life! Hang in there! YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!!


And I thought I was alone. I feel exactly like this! My 4 kids and their spouses and grands were close until about 3 years ago. Now I never see them. We moved across country to help one daughter and I have her on a security camera berating me for 22 minutes. She then said I was telling her children to lie, I didn’t. She was actually having them lie all the time. She then called her dad and I and said we could no longer see the kids???? We haven’t seen them in over a year. I don’t think I can ever forgive her. The oldest daughter used the opportunity to use her children. They attack my son and his wife constantly. The youngest daughter steers clear of everyone but believes her sisters. We were the family that got together all the time. I don’t understand how they can do this.


Thank you, thank you, thank you for your honesty and vulnerability. I’m in a nearly identical situation and hearing you are also experiencing this made me feel less E

sarah kaboya

Ohhh dear! This cracked me up! The paragraph about children going out of their way….my father on e remarked to me that he wished he’d never had children. It was just a casual conversation we were having, and I was secretly show led at his remark. Now he’s dead and gone, and I completely understand why he said it! Unlike my father, who had 30 children, I have one. I am grateful I have him, I would have always wondered if I hadn’t had a child. But the pain I’ve felt since he was a teenager, to date ( he’s 32) makes me wonder! The 28 year hormone has helped me understand some of it though, and I am grateful. No, I am not a closet pervert for wanting my son in my life, but yes, child divorce is a good idea.

Kim Halsey-Brassor

The 28 year hormone was a game changer for me!


I don’t understand what that means.

Kim Brassor

I think it was Christianne Northrop in “My Mother, Myself” who suggested that womens’ bodies absorb and carry their infant’s dna mixed in their cells from birth to around age 28. I found it fascinating that the physical connection is real and lasts longer with our bio children.


Hello, I am only 49 but am heartbroken but my 2 daughters. My oldest only wants money for me. Yells and screams at me whenever I don’t give her her way or disagrees that with her. Tells everyone how horrible I am in generally makes me feel horrible. I’ve been dealing with this for about 10 years and I can’t do it anymore with her. she is 24 and generally narcissistic and always expects me to give her everything. I’ve had to work a part-time job up until now to give her money. Once I stop giving her her way she is done with me. She’s driven a wedge between my middle child and second daughter. my second daughter is always been very short tempered and opinionated. She’s only 20 but told me to go to hell because I was never in her opinion put her first. I started standing up for myself and it is driven a wedge between us. I’ve always worked hard as a single brother to provide for them. educating myself, giving them everything I had, going years without a haircut so that they could have everything they wanted and need. I feel no attachment to my grandson and I just want peace in my life. I don’t want drama and I can’t cry anymore tears over them. it has ruined my life. people don’t believe me when I tell them that I regret ever having children and would never do it again. I felt so guilty that I don’t want to relationship with him right now.


Hi Susan
I hear you. I just think what’s the point. With my daughter when the money stopped so did the fake love. After 4 years of estrangement and all the counselling, crying and crap I decided I’m done. All I can say is why didn’t I do it sooner. I don’t want the stress.


Thank You!


Perfectly said as sad as I feel reading this post for you I hold all the same feelings you posted. It is relieving to hear other mother’s feeling the same thank you for your honesty


Thank You! I am also feeling so alone. It is good to have found a group that is going through the same thing


I find it both fascinating and oddly relieving that this seems to be common for women. Not that I want anyone to hurt because I don’t but that we seem to have similar experiences yet believe that everyone else’s outcome was probably better. If the opportunity ever arises, I would love to disappear. If it weren’t for my grandchildren I would have zero regrets.


I can feel all your pain as I have the same problem with my 2 daughters.same only want money ,everything you said…I can’t even start to tell you as it’s all here from you.same treatment and abuse .the only crying I do is when I connect with them,they make me sad,they make me cry.